Tuesday, January 10, 2006

The Path of Truth...

I'm posting this just in case anyone reading this has also received an email from from this guy Victor Hafichuk. My first thought was to work on a detailed reply with Scripture and reason and probably an unhealthy dose of anger but ringing in my ears was "That's not living, and it's not living well." If you happen to receive this email titled "The Path of Truth," please discard it. I feel about this the same way I felt about the Paul Proctor situation.

Remember what your mom told you about ignoring them and they'll go away? Well, where these people are concerned, part of that is a lie. They won't go away. But you will not allow them to be present with you.

11 comments:

Anonymous said...

HI Craig, Yes, this Victor guy is a "whack" living in Monarch, Alberta. He has an organic farm near Coaldale, Alberta. I have been there and the place gives me the creeps. He is not a guy that you can reason with since he is very pridefull. He talks enough Christian language to sound like he knows what he is talking about but unfortunately for him he has played his responses over and over again so much that he is starting to believe this junk. His normal process in Southern Alberta is to sneek into churches, steal their membership directories and then send out letters to the congregation telling them everything that was wrong with the message and other targeted attacks on leadership in the local church. Yup, saw that first hand and was on the list of targets - thank goodness my wife intercepted the letter and never did read it. Others in the church laughed and threw it away in the garbage. Victor is quite pathetic...like Satan himself. Victor and the others that sit at his right and left hand need to make right all the wrongs they have done. Their eternal lives depend on it! Guys like Victor are the reason that everyone has to read their bible and trust the true and living God. Victors God is what he wants to make him to be so that he can continue on to fight-fight-fight for his god. Last time I checked God said the fight was his. Heaven help us if God needs the Victors of the world to help Him out a bit.

...just a Christian from Canada...

Paul Cohen said...

I address "Anonymous," who declares himself, "just a Christian from Canada," and thus I address all those who support him in his spirit and thinking.

Firstly, he is a coward. Some, like "concerned citizen gal" posting at Rolfe's blog, claim they have to conceal their identity for the sake of their families. Yet they are not the least reticent to slander others publicly while protecting themselves. How concerned is "concerned citizen gal" about any other family? Is this Christlike conduct? And she accuses me of lacking Christian love?

And then you wonder why God sends spokespersons to "reprove the works of darkness," especially those that use His Name in their nefarious deeds? Hypocrites!

Anonymous, you and your brood are not as some honest, well-intentioned, genuine brethren of Christ, who reported evil doings of the Corinthians:

"For it has been declared to me concerning you, my brothers, by those of Chloe, that there are contentions among you" (1 Corinthians 1:11 MKJV).

Those of Chloe! They did not mind being named because they knew they were standing in Truth, with the Lord, seeking justice and righteousness, and therefore justified. "Brother Paul, you can tell them we told you so!" They were not hiding in darkness, "Anonymous" and "concerned citizen gal." Would the apostle Paul condemn anonymously or teach and encourage others to do so?

Manifestly, we are not hiding in darkness because we are children of the Light of the world, the Lord Jesus Christ. How is it that I am a "whack," speaking boldly and openly, while you are a "Christian," hiding in the dark, "Anonymous"? Even in her darkness, Carla Rolfe concedes that we do not hide our identity, unlike false critics, as you do. Not that she does it for objectivity's sake.

Anonymous, I don't care who you are, but I am ready to meet you face-to-face anywhere and anytime reasonable, with as many friends and supporters as you are willing to bring along. Will that give you some security and encouragement to walk in the light (I speak with tongue in cheek)? We can talk and you, "just a Christian from Canada," may express specifically your grievances, give us substance, and perhaps an opportunity to correct things I have done wrong and to apologize or compensate, if possible, those I have wronged, ostensibly you.

After all, you say, "Victor and the others that sit at his right and left hand need to make right all the wrongs they have done. Their eternal lives depend on it!" Can I correct something if I don't know what it is? Does the Lord not counsel His children so? Let's see:

"But if your brother shall trespass against you, go and tell him his fault between you and him alone. If he hears you, you have gained your brother. But if he will not hear you, take one or two more with you, so that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established. And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it to the church. But if he neglects to hear the church, let him be to you as a heathen and a tax-collector" (Matthew 18:15-17 MKJV).

I don't recall you coming to me at all with complaint of wrongdoing. Will you afford me that opportunity, or are you simply satisfied with publicly condemning, accusing others and casting dispersions by mere opinion, with no substance at all? You know who the false accuser is, don't you, "Christian"? And how does your pastor feel about your conduct, or does he not know what you are doing?

You make several charges but give no facts:

You call me a "whack." What is that? Are you sure? Is that what God would have you to say of me, "Christian"? Are you a viper, "Anonymous"? They called Jesus a "whack" ("You are mad," they said) and He called them vipers. Who was justified?

You say you have visited Harvest Haven and that "the place gives you the creeps."

You confess fear. If Christ is in you, and we are "creepy," being in the world, and Christ is greater, how do you justify your fear? Is your fear our fault – or yours, "Christian"? But any of us is ready to meet you any time and we will soon see if who dwells in you is up to facing Who dwells in and with us. Is that fair enough? Or are you afraid?

(By the way, if you go to the farm site, you will find testimonies of many who will outright disagree with your feelings of us.)

You condemn me with unsubstantiated opinion, saying I am prideful. Perhaps I am. So you are the judge of that, are you? Because I know the Scriptures and speak them, am I therefore "prideful"? You say I am not a guy one can reason with. I am reasoning now. How is that? Are my reasonings unreasonable in asking for substance to back up your opinions? How intelligent are you, "Christian"? I know of many unbelievers who can reason much better than you, though you take upon yourself the Name of the Lord. Do you suppose to have the mind of the Lord? True Christians have His mind, and they can reason, and are willing to reason. I am reasoning with you. Are you afraid or speechless, "Anonymous"? Why?

You say that what I say is junk and that I often repeat it, but you don't say what it is I say. What is "junk," Anonymous? To the Pharisees, vipers, what Jesus said was "junk." Are people simply to take your word for it? Nash does. He doesn't mind. He knows where we stand and have stood, and he does not like it, so he is more than willing to have us condemned without trial or substance. He does not care. He'll publish any claptrap, even in the Name of the Lord, just to be seen and heard for his own sake.

So you say my "normal process in Southern Alberta is to sneek into churches, steal their membership directories and then send out letters to the congregation telling them everything that was wrong with the message and other targeted attacks on leadership in the local church."

Is that my "normal process"? Would you care to list the occasions and frequencies in any given period of time? I can say that such is not my "normal process," but if it were, and God was sending me to do so, who are you to criticize? Are you right? Do you know what you criticize or what I have said? You don't say.

But I will submit a letter of one of those rare occasions in which I have done what you say in my "normal process," a letter nearly eight years old, which I have kept on file. Of those mentioned in the letter or of your church, I recall but one that came to our farm before that letter was written, with whom I had a face-to-face talk, when you were selling us roasted grain. Right?

Is your conduct that of a child of light, "Christian"? Or is this the way accusers or devils operate? No doubt your Jesus would do this, seeing you call yourself Christian, but the One I believe and serve would not do so. Would you argue, with reason, "Anonymous"?

Is it any wonder that you, your pastors and the entire congregation was addressed by the Lord in this letter? By the way, your pastor and his wife prophesied great things over us, seeing visions of us as well that, ironically, foretold truly what we would be doing, under God's direction and favor. Then when their visions were fulfilled in that we did those things prophesied and envisioned, they and their congregation did not like it.

This reminds me of Balaam who opposed Israel, yet prophesied good things of them by the Spirit of the Lord. I am also reminded of Caiaphas, by whose authority they crucified the Christ, yet who prophesied truly of Him:

"And one of them, Caiaphas, being the high priest of that year, said to them, You do not know anything at all, nor do you consider that it is expedient for us that one man should die for the people, and not that the whole nation perish. And he did not speak this of himself, but being high priest that year, he prophesied that Jesus should die for the nation; and not for that nation only, but also that He should gather together in one the children of God who were scattered abroad" (John 11:49-52 MKJV).

You say, "Victor is quite pathetic...like Satan himself."

Is Satan "pathetic"? He has you in his grips, does he not, "pat"? How pathetic are you, if he is your lord, being pathetic?

You say, "Victors God is what he wants to make him to be so that he can continue on to fight-fight-fight for his god."

What does this mean? Does anyone know? Are we not accused of strife for evil's sake? But we are what we are, not because of what we have made of God, as you evilly surmise, but because of what He has made of us. We are here doing, as Jude directed by the Spirit, that which is incumbent on us in the Lord to do:

"Having made all haste to write to you about the common salvation, beloved, I had need to write to you to exhort you to contend earnestly for the faith once delivered to the saints" (Jude 1:3 MKJV).

Here is the letter I wrote then, to which I believe our secret "Christian" friend alludes. If it is another, let him say so; better still, let him identify himself, ask of me, and I will gladly produce it myself, if I have it. Fair enough?

Now, Carla Rolfe, Craig Nash, and all those others who take pleasure in false accusation, throwing out gossip and slander against the brethren in the Lord, when your works are exposed for what they are and you are reproved and warned, you all need to repent, though it is not likely expected any time soon. Still, we know that He chooses the person, time and place. It is only for us to speak the Truth for His sake…and yours.

One day, you will all know your wrong and come to us with shamed faces, because the Lord promised it would be so. We love you because He loves you, and we bless you, though you curse us, in Jesus' Name.

Rejoicing not in slander and hypocrisy, but in the Truth, by His grace,

Victor Hafichuk
www.thepathoftruth.com

Here you can read the Letter to the New Life Church in Taber, Alberta.

Anonymous said...

Hi Craig. I know this Victor guy and his farm. The people in the farm appear to be so friendly first that you can't even imagine all the threatening words they would tell you if you disagree with Victor, a man who claims himself to be a "spokesperson" of God. They think they believe in God but they are only worshippers of their guru. And you can tell how sick they are just by reading Paul's lengthy comment above! It must be their lifework to frantically search for their opponents on the Web.

Paul Cohen said...

Anonymous,

How about showing us some examples of our allegedly threatening words?

And what about blurting out unfounded opinion because you don't exercise even a cursory inspection here? I didn't write the above posting, yet you call it my comment. You obviously haven't red it, yet you are saying it shows how sick we are. You lack any credibility.

It's all par for the course for anonymous accusers and hypocrites. It is not we who "frantically search" out "opponents," but you have been searching for us. How else did you get here? And why are you so obsessed? Why not come clean? Where is your sickness getting you except sicker?

Paul Cohen
www.thepathoftruth.com

Craig said...
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Craig said...

The fact that all this conversation is going on in a blog posted well over two years ago is quite humorous to me. Viktor or Paul or whoever you are, I do not take pleasure in accusing you of anything. I do not love you, but neither to I hate you. I nothing you. I wrote this post during a time when you were sending letters to those in my congregation, suggesting it was God that killed my best friend. My point was not to get them to be angry and bitter about what you are saying, but for people to not allow you to take up even a small portion of their thought space. And you know what? It worked. No one who loved my friend even thinks about you. If it weren't for people posting links to this two year old post, I wouldn't think of you either, and neither would you think of us. Can we return to this?

Paul Cohen said...

Craig, you say you do not love us, which is true, but as one professing Christ you should love even your enemies. Plainly you are not a believer by your own admission.

However, we are not your enemies because we love both you and Kyle Lake. All the more reason you should love us. Jesus said, "He that gathers not with Me, scatters." If you do not love the brethren in Christ, you hate them. There is no neutrality. You either serve God or you serve the prince of this world. You serve the latter.

Kyle did too. You, as his like-minded friend, confirm that what we said about him was true. Kyle was a servant of the serpent, and God judged him righteously according to His Word. So, no, we weren't "suggesting," we were declaring that God killed him, and you follow him (Kyle, that is).

If you people have succeeded in preventing the truth from entering your minds, then are these words fulfilled:

"And as he sowed, it happened that indeed some fell by the wayside, and the fowls of the air came and ate it up" (Mark 4:4 MKJV).

Interpretation: "The sower sows the Word. And these are those by the wayside, where the Word is sown. And when they hear, Satan comes immediately and takes away the Word that was sown in their hearts" (Mark 4:14-15 MKJV).

It does not matter to us whether people think of us or not, or what they think of us. We are not here for that. We only care about doing the Lord's will and speaking His Word faithfully. That is all that counts. We deserve no credit, no thanks, no recognition, and do not ask for any. You are here to publicize and glorify yourself, loving the glory and praise of man, as was Lake. He loved the praise of man; that is why he did what he did, an exhibitionist, showing off, blaspheming in all his ways, and leading all astray. So too with you, Craig.

Victor Hafichuk and Paul Cohen
www.thepathoftruth.com

Craig said...

Ok, point taken. Thanks for sharing.

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Anonymous said...

Paul and Victor are servants of Satan. They are full of the pride and the hatred of their father, the father of lies. This is why Victor in his testimony page says: "Blessed are those who are not offended in us." As if they are God!

They will be eternally dammed for adding words to the scripture.

Anonymous said...

The more I read this the sicker to my stomach I got.These men certainly believe that they are seated on the right hand of the Father and that they are here for the purpose of proclaiming they themselves are god. WRONG,WRONG, WRONG Paul admitted to being a sinner as did every single follower of Yahshua but yet these men have made a point of proclaiming that they are without sin that they are the only ones who can speak for THE ALMIGHTY. When he declared death to people he took it way over the line. You truly are in the light I will say that, and I will add that you are in the light of the one who bears false light.I pray that the one who spoke all things into being shows mercy and grace upon your souls because if you are proclaiming yourselves as god like you are saying you may and I say this with a sad heart, you may have gone to a place where forgiveness is hard to come by.